Tragedy befell me yesterday.
Due to a crash and corruption/destruction of a vital Windows folder on my computer, I was forced to do a system recovery, losing most of my personalized files and folders in the process.
All the vids, mp3s, scribings, convos and other stuff I’d built up over the past year-and-a-half in my personal folder are now no more….
I’m glad that at least some of my prized folders were in the shared documents – the Advent and/or Microsoft peeps behind the so-called system recovery seem to think that’s worth preservation….just not my actual personal folders.
What are they, communists?
“Protects all your files”? Those cunts should be done under the trade descriptions act! Lying cocksuckers!
In time most of it most of the discarded data can be replaced..
As for the (considerable) rest? Well….
~MRDA~
someone who pirates videos and music shouldn’t call others communists.
These are legal mp3s and authorized music vids, thanks for asking!
the ‘music’ field in most of your entries names copyrighted music, though. you could of course be manually writing them in each time, but i doubt it.
You know people can still buy music, right? And then listen to it after they’ve bought it. And have it playing while they write entries. And make it into MP3s to play on, let’s say, a music jukebox like an iPod. That is allowed.
actually it isn’t, see my below comment to mrda for some more details. it’s not legal to play mp3s made off of a cd you bought using an ipod, it’s only legal if the mp3s are public domain or you bought the particular mp3s from their owners.
Show me a court case where an artist/record company sued anyone (and won) for putting a copy of purchased music on their iPod.
If the music industry stuck to the strictest interpretation of the law, they would have gone after the MP3-playing device makers years ago because that is where the danger lies. This is the same argument back in the day when I worked in record stores and people would buy a vinyl record and a blank cassette tape to record the songs for listening in the car, etc. Even though the music industry “lost out” on selling cassette tape in addition to the LP – and they went after the manufacturers of blank cassettes (even though they could be used for other purposes) – these cases never saw the light of day because it was UNREASONABLE to ask people to pay twice for the same content in different formats.
The kind of knee-jerk reactions you’re embracing will not help artists.
there are a lot of cases where something is illegal but has never been punished in a court of law, i suspect this would be one of them.
my purpose isn’t to support artists, but to support mrda.
there are a lot of cases where something is illegal but has never been punished in a court of law
Name one.
certainly. in florida, it’s illegal to break more than 3 dishes (plates, cups, etc.) a day.
there are entire sites about these kinds of laws.
But legality and morality, as we well know, do not always walk hand in hand….and at the end of the day, the latter is what we’re really arguing for….
The case you’ve cited seems to be rooted in the arbitrary rather than anything approaching rationality.
if you want to morally break the law, fine, but i respect it. raskolnikov from crime and punishment thought he was morally breaking the law too.
I’m simply saying your plate-breaking analogy was an inadequate comparison for the issue being discussed here.
I do not agree with the unauthorized downloading of music from the net – the mp3s I download from the net are all via the artist’s or label’s sites, not any third parties.
The songs I name in my music fields are a combination of said mp3s, CDs I choose to listen to at the time and, yes, choice tracks from (magazine demo)CDs I had purchased and loaded onto my computer to save time and hassle looking around for them at a later date.
I fully understand the desire of artists not to have their work mass-produced without their consent. However, I think that prohibiting people from backing up the music they’ve legally bought (for their own use) is ludicrous, to put it mildly. Personally were I a music artist, I’d authorize the duplication of data onto other media for purely personal usage, prohibiting all other instances of copying.
A related question: Is making a tape recording of said music also wrong, considering that the cassette album market is all but dead?
Name me a comparable law, then. One where it makes sense that they’d prosecute because the law itself makes perfect sense to you, but that they don’t, indeed, prosecute.
Or just admit that applying copyright in the ways you’ve suggested is just as ridiculous an application of law as breaking more than 3 dishes.
alright, rape almost fits. rape is prosecuted, but very seldom, something like 90% of the time it’s unreported, and even when it *is* reported it’s often halted prior to getting to court because it’d be too difficult to prove. the law makes sense to me, but they don’t prosecute it.
But rape is prosecuted. Copying songs to your iPod isn’t. Ever.
granted, but the ipod is a relatively new idea. it might just require a little time.
Mp3s are not a new idea.
The record companies didn’t sue Apple. And the iPod is not new and neither are other mp3 players.
i didn’t say mp3s were new — i said the ipod was relatively new. and record companies shouldn’t sue apple — the ipod can be used legitimately.
Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
As the lady said, one can buy music, on the wonderful medium that is CD, as I have done with the majority of my collection. All else – the downloaded stock – have been tracks and clips sanctioned by the artists and/or their labels.
Napster et al are not even passing acquaintances of mine, so less of the assumptions, please.
Let me just say that I generally hate the idea of downloading albums wholesale – morality and legality aside, the connoisseur in me loves to own a CD for all the lyrics and aesthetic value of the packaging.
You know, reading your journal, I expect you of all people not to jump to half-baked conclusions; I know this is a matter close to your heart, but still…
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
the above is a common misperception — under copyright law, buying a cd does not give you the right to make mp3’s out of it, or any other form of copy. that’s what owning the copyright means — you have the sole right to copy it, no one else has the right to make copies. making an mp3 out of a cd you bought, or downloading an mp3 of a song that you also own on a cd, is still a breach of copyright.
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
Yet making mp3s is not harming the artists in the way real piracy does. Please just use (un)common sense.
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agreed somewhat, but, it harms anyone when you don’t respect their property. i could go into your bathroom, use it, clean up, and then leave your house, all without ever informing you or asking you, i’m not harming you in any way — but it’s still using someone’s property without permission.
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
But my bathroom is not a creative expression that I sell for profit.
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
i do not see how selling/not selling matters. if you had a lemonade stand, and someone drank your lemonade, and then replaced it with identical lemonade, it’s still using your property without permission.
i do not see how creative expression matters either. if someone reads your (physical, paper) diary, or your love letters, copies them secretly, and reads them, that’s still using your property without permission.
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
Imposing moral absolutes on the real world never works. People will make mp3s of cds they have bought and even if it is ethicly wrong then its still not doing any harm.
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
well, both mrda and i believe in moral absolutes — so i was mainly speaking to him.
i agree that if a person doesn’t accept the premise that morality is absolute, then there is nothing stopping them from breaking whatever ethical principle they personally think should be bent in such and such a case. i’m not good at arguing against moral relativity, though, so i’ll keep it to that agreement.
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
Good point. Apologies to mrda, for using your lj to debate ethics
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Nowt wrong with ethical debate…
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
“well, both mrda and i believe in moral absolutes”
I’d say I believe more in contextual morality, rather than absolutism or relativism; that is having a strong set of moral principles without losing sight of the context of any given situation.
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
Rinku, this debate has got me interested in the issue of intellectual property; thinking back there’ve been many instances where I’ve copied such-and-such (programmes from TV, CDs onto cassette tapes) with out knowing the implications of such.
I hope to return to this issue at a later point in my journal – a rechecking of premises if you will…
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also, i should note that your argument is not any essentially different from this socialist argument: “the rich don’t really use all their property, they can’t possibly have a use for all that money, and taking it from them doesn’t hurt them at all, so it’s not wrong to take it.”
Re: Man cannot live on mp3 alone, Rinku!
Wow, I seriously believe that this rinku person just needs to stop fighting and accept the inevitability of being, perhaps in some small fashion, umm, you know….wrong. Instead of fighting so viciously to get your point across, contradict people, and impose your moral values in something as menial as an LJ reply, I think you should try actually considering the plausibility of a contradiction to your ideals…maybe that’s just me.
As for mrda, kill the apples and rid the world of another daaaangerous spooky conglomerate.
I’ve been through similar losses. But what I’ve found is the librarian in me that wants to save everything needs a purge now and then and the world doesn’t come to an end when it happens, as much as it feels like that at the time.
i hate that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! zip drive your stuff now I guess. or mail a folder to yourself to keep on your mail system
Ugh
I have SO been there. I need to pick up some cds soon so I can make back ups of all of my pictures. I have back ups of most of my mp3 files, but I am not too worried about them. While it would be tedious to re-rip them, it would not be impossible. 🙂
But yeah, this happened to me when we did the great switch to the new computer a year ago. My system crashed and I was getting a new one for christmas anyway, so we did christmas a little early. But I still haven’t found everything. While I thought I had everythign transfered to cds, I think I missed a lot of it. 🙁
Would never happen on a Mac. But yes, it sucks, it can be good though, like a kind of purge of dead weight forcing you to move on.
I lost all my files on a mac once.
That’s how I’m trying to look at things….
BTW, don’t forget your questions…
FUCK THE COMMUNISTS
THEY’RE CRAP